Organization of Professional Astrologers

OPA E-News

Volume 1 - No. 3 - April, 2001 (Part One)


This issue of OPA E-News went out to 85 members

This month: We are now Accepting Conference Reservations. Plus More Exciting Conference Details, Results of Last Month's and previous Surveys, New Survey Question, Results of Last Month's Q & A, Previous Month's Q & A


From the Editor


Dear Members,

I want to thank you for your feedback and your participation in the Survey and Q & A. Your participation is what gives this little rag its vitality and character.

Below you'll see your responses to questions asked in previous months and the new questions for this month.

Also, check out the conference information below. We are now ready to take your registration. And since the early registration deadline is June 1 (when you'll get our best rate) you won't want to tarry.

And definitely check out our redesigned website. We can thank the efforts of Bonnie Isham Willis. She gave us a professional, clean, well designed look. (You can find detail about the conference there, too). Just go to: http://www.professional-astrology.org


But before that, a word of explanation.
OPA E-News goes out at the beginning of each month. In addition, around mid-month, you've been receiving an email entitled "Gentle Reminder."

The reason?
I've discovered that the response rate to the Survey and Q & A goes way up upon receipt of the Gentle Reminder. For example, only 2 responded to the March Survey questions within the two week period following the E-News' release. All the rest (that's 14 out of 16!) came after the release of March's Gentle Reminder. Most within 48 hours.

A similar pattern occurred in February.

(So, at least I know you're reading them <Grin>.

The bad news <grin> is that you will continue to receive them. And I will use the Gentle Reminder as a vehicle to inform you about late breaking conference details and update conference postings (see below).

So for the record, I'm not trying to shame anyone for being tardy or chooses not to respond at all-just prod you a little:) I recognize you're busy professionals and I'm grateful you're willing to take the time to participate.

And one last thing. If you decide that you prefer to opt out of receiving the OPA E-News, just send me an email.

Ellen Zucker
emzucker@netreach.net



Conference Update -- Professional Astrologers at Work Conference - NOVEMBER 2-5, 2001


You can NOW REGISTER at our upcoming conference. Contact Diana Riviere at diana@archivepress.com Tel: 303 554 0801

Early registration deadline is June 1.



Hotel information

Check out our beautiful convention hotel right on the beach of the Gulf of Mexico. It's the Radisson Suites Resort Marco Island
Tel: 941 394 4100, Fax: 941 394 0419 http://www.marcobeachresort.com

Be sure to mention that you are attending the OPA conference to qualify for our special $99 room rate.



Transportation Information

Airport transfers:
The closest major airport is Fort Meyers. But if you find it more convenient to fly into Ft. Lauderdale or Miami, there are transportation options available from all of these points.

Option 1.
Florida has very reasonable car rental rates. Check the internet for the best deals.

Option 2.
Classic Luxury Airport Transportation has a great deal if you don't want to rent a car. They will transport you in a Lincoln Town Car.

Rates are PER PERSON, EACH WAY: but you need a MINIMUM PARTY OF 2 to qualify for these rates. Traveling alone? Don't dispair. Read the section below about postings.

Fort Meyers to/from Marco Island. $21
Miami to/from Marco Island $55
Ft. Lauderdale to/from Marco Island $55


Classic Luxury Airport Transportation
Tel: 800 553 8294
Tel: 941 394 1888
Fax: 941 389 1889

If other airport transfer options become known, we'll post them.



Postings for Ridesares and Roommates

As a courtesy, I'll post your arrival information on the website and in the OPA E-News. This way you can contact each other if you'd like to hook up to share transportation costs to and from the airport.

You'll need to furnish the following: Name and contact information (email, phone, etc), and arrival information (airport where you'll be arriving, airline, flight number, scheduled time of arrival).


I will also post roommate requests. If you'd like us to post your roommate request, furnish the following: Name and contact information, gender, smoking/no smoking preferences.

Contact me at: emzucker@netreach.net

Check here for rideshare postings
Check here for roommate postings



Fuller detail is posted on OPA's website, http://www.professional-astrology.org




SURVEY-Results




And now for the fun stuff.
Last month we asked:
1. How do you get clients?
2. How long have you been in practice (receiving payment for your services)?
Comments?


16 of you responded out of 84 who received the newsletter. (19%) Thank you for your time and effort.

This month's respondants are a distinguished group. All of you have been in practice for 5 years or more. And 12 of you (75% of this unscientific sample) have been practicing for 20 years or more.



Hands down, the best method for obtaining clients is referral. Every one of you mentioned referral as one of or the primary way of getting new clients. Gail Fairfield who has been in practice for 21 years, estimates that 90% of her clients come by referral, for example.

And you like the quality of the clients you get by referral.

Linda Zlotnick writes:
Word of mouth is the best advertising because it brings in the kind of clients that fit the type of astrology I do.

Tim Rubald writes:
The best ones find me. In about the last five or ten years I've not advertised by conventional means. I do a monthly talk at a local Borders that draws a few in. Mostly, I try and maintain some kind of contact with past clients in order to let them know I'm still here for them.

Haloli Richter agrees:
i get clients through referals and through public lectures. i want to have a certain clientele, mainly people who are not sleepwalking through life, and that is more possible through referals, than more public channels like a web page.

And this is very effective as she continues:

thank godness, i have more work than i need, both locally and nationally internationally by phone. but the secret is repeat business, most clients have been with me for 15-20 years for yearly updates.



Like Haloli and Tim, many of you mentioned that your practices are built in large part on existing clients. Based on your comments, I suspect this is the case for nearly all of you even if you didn't explicitly state it.

Bob Mulligan writes:
Most of my clients come by referral. Once in a while some new client comes to me from having read something that i have written. Soemtimes a client comes to me because they have heard me speak somewhere. Sometimes students of mine become clients....Most of my clients (probably 80% or more) have been clients for many years.



Many of you find that putting your self out in the public eye is effective in getting clients. This ranges from public speaking (lectures) (9), teaching (5), and writing (5).Writing can take different forms. Two people write a weekly Astrological column, another had written a book.

Of course, lectures, and teaching can overlap-as do writing and teaching. And referrals come out of all of these activities.


Advertising came up as a method-with mixed results. Some like their results, others didn't find it to be very effective.

Sandra Leigh Serio says:
If you want to build a practice, you have to advertis. Even if you have an existing practice, advertising gets and keeps your name out in front of the public. I consider my mailing list, phone book listings, and an ad I am now placing in a local new age paper all forms of advertisement.

John Marchesella writes:
How do I get clients? Always word-of-mouth. Oh, sure, I placed an ad. or two back in the early days of being paid (1977) and I did a benefit with free readings once and raffled a reading, but that never worked very much at all in getting clients. In fact, with one exception, it did more harm than good....to my workload, I mean, not to the client.

More commonly, you've dropped advertising after your practices were firmly established.


Advertising is one form of marketing. It can be done many ways. In some cases, a weekly column with contact information serves the purpose of ongoing advertising.

Sandra Leigh again:
Word of mouth referrals and through a weekly astrology column that I have been writing for 18 years. My phone number appears at the bottom of the column (it is a toll free number since I have moved from the state where the column appears). The column reaches a quarter of a million people and I am paid $100 per week to write it.


Elspeth writes:
I've written a weekly column for almost 5 years that's given me lots of local exposure. I also get client referrals, as well as referrals from therapists. I lecture in the area, and I have an ongoing study group that I advertise in my weekly column



Mailing to your existing and potential clients is also a powerful tool.
Sandra Leigh:
I also get clients from my mailing list which consists of about 5000 people in the Northeast Ohio area. The mailing list comes from people who read my column or attend the public events I run (psychic gatherings). I send out a mailing about six times per year announcing the public events and my services.





Grace Morris reminds us that our topic, "how do you get clients?" can also be worded as "how do you market yourself?" Marketing is the total package we put out to the public.And it includes intangibles like appearance. Read how Grace Morris leverages the appearance of her office as a marketing tool:

She writes:
Comments: My present office since 1994 is on the tower floor of an office building facing downtown Chicago and Sears Tower about 15 miles away in the 'high-priced' suburb of Oak Brook, IL (across from McDonalds main headquarters). Many TV crews have come to the office to film our 'French Renaissance' atmosphere, Paris TV, Brazil, ABC (Connie Chung's Eye to Eye crew), etc. and most recently, Fortune Magazine photographer and crew. 

I think office ambiance is important if you are working with heads of companies, fund managers, traders, etc. and if you are charging good rates.





More than one person alluded to a synergistic effect produced by putting yourself out there in more than one way.

Jeff Baugher writes:
At this point, most clients come primarily from referrals of current clients or referrals from students. In the previous 3 years, I have counted on numerous workshops (20/year) and classes (6/year) to generate potential client contacts. At this point, I feel that has has succeeded, and have cut back on workshops because I feel that my name is sufficiently out there, and that workshops take a lot of energy. I still write for two publications, occasionally do a workshop, and continue to do classes. My clientele is about 95% local.
Often a new client will comment that they heard my name from several different directions (friend's recommendation, read one of my articles, heard me at the local astrology group meeting, saw one of my ads, or attended one of my workshops.) So it seems that a synergistic effect is taking place.








Although the question wasn't explicitly asked, many of you volunteered your thoughts and experiences about starting out.

Bob Mulligan:
If I were starting to build a practice today, I would study under someone already successful in practice. This option was not available to me at the time I began. I would still see clients for free for a while as I believe that is a sane and safe form of advertizing. Plus, I got to do some good in the world.

John Marchesella counsels:
I do tell my students they should do whatever they can to get clients when they feel ready to read and charge. One of them just got a "job" doing readings (serious ones) at a beauty salon/health spa. The propietor (a friend of his) gave him a room in the salon/spa and spread the word. He sees three or four people a week there and it led to another little gig in a restuarant with short and snappy readings (not so great, but good publicity). There is a way to do those little readings in a tasteful and helpful way and he's getting the knack now. It's not the height of professionalism, but it's a start and I tell him so long as he does no harm, he might actually even be doing some good.

I tell them just as when the student is ready, the teacher appears, so too,when the teacher is ready, the student appears. I also send them the clients who can't afford my fee ($150) or can't wait long enough to see me. (I have a six to eight week waiting list)

Abzudusk sums up the discussion nicely:
Everyone has their own way of getting clients; different ways work for different people-I never get anything much when I appear on the radio or TV; for others, it works well.


By the way, one source that NONE of you listed is the internet. If anyone wants to comment, I'll be happy to share your thoughts here.





Breakdown:
Number of respondants: 16

1. How do you get clients?

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#| Method
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16|Referral/Word of Mouth
10| Public speaking/lectures
6| Teaching/Classes
6| Writing

Advertising:
4| Yellow Pages
3| Not specidfied


2. How long have you been in practice (receiving payment for your services)?
--------------
#| Range
---------------
0|Under 5 years
1|5-9 years
1|10-14 years
2|15-19 years
6|20-24 years
4|25-29 years
2|30+ years





Elspeth had a comment about February's survey on rates charged by Astrologers.




She writes:
In your last e-mail, you reported the fees in the Denver/ Boulder area. From what I've recently been told, the fee most often quoted by area astrologers is actually $60/hr. - somewhat lower than OPA members who responded to the question.

Ellen Zucker answers:
A clarification is in order here.

First: This survey and any other survey in OPA E-News makes no pretense to be a scientific sampling. Survey respondants are self selected OPA members (OPA members, themselves, are a self selected pool of Astrologers). Therefore there is no pretense that results are reflective of the Astrology community at large.

Second: The rates reported here reflect only those charged by respondants to these survey questions. In the case of Denver/Boulder, you were the only respondant.

Your statement that prevailing hourly Astrology rates in Denver are substantially lower than OPA members who responded to the question is interesting. Is this true elsewhere? Comments, anyone?


Comments?


New Survey Questions
(Hit the reply button, answer the questions and click "send")



This month we direct our attention toward merchant Visa/MC card accounts.

1. Do you offer credit card payments to your clients? Why or why not?

2. If you have an arrangement with a merchant account vendor you particularly like, could you share the terms, contact information?


Comments?



See Part 2 for Q&A



To write to OPA E-NEWS, send to: emzucker@netreach.net. Articles, contributions are welcome. No attachments, please.



Q & A



Last month,
Bob Mulligan wrote:
Here is my situation. In the last few years the volume of clients that I see has dropped dramatically. I was saved from financial ruin only because I increased my rates. My rate use to be $100 an hour. I now charge $150. I sell about 1000 hours a year. After paying, business expenses, child support, taxes, mortgage, there isn’t much left for savings etc. My dilemma is that my clientele has gradually drifted from being a broad cross-section of our society to being only those who are very well heeled. Yes, I do work for free at times, but it isn’t the same as when everyone could afford an appointment. Does anyone have any other thoughts on the time money equation in general? Or on my personal situation?


Maureen Ambrose writes:
Obviously, Bob, you are going through some heavy-duty transits and who knows what else.  Your time-money equations seem sound.  Perhaps you have picked up on the trend of our economy.  People seem to be pulling back and are becoming more selective with how they are spending money.  The mood seems to be more cautious instead of euphoric.  Companies are laying off or cutting down.  It's a good thing you have well-heeled clients because they will probably continue to want the service you provide especially in these uncertain times. You were smart to increase your hourly rate :-))  Do you want to pickup more of the broad-based clientele?  Do you have time open to do more work?  Would you want to create another level of business?  Is there a service you could provide that is tailored to the primarily to the broad-base, general public? You've been doing astrology professionally for long enough to ask and answer all these questions so I'm sure no stone has been left unturned.  What else could be done, then?  It would seem to me that you would need to review your overhead.  What is it costing you to live and to conduct your business?  What portion of your business requires travel and is that a money-maker when it is netted out?  Some things cannot be avoided but others can be managed better.  It would appear that you need to make some long-range changes because of the discomfort you feel.



Haloli Richter writes:
i understand bob's question and explanation very well. looking at my clients here in washington dc as well as my phonework all over the country as well as internationally, ALL clients are professionals and in upper income brackets. but living in washington, there is no blue color industry and most people interested in my service have also done therapy or other life examining activities. also, since i do not advertise at all and only work by word of mouth i have a naturally preselected clientele...friends of existing clients, therapists and their clients, again an educated group of people.


Dear Members,
If you have additional comments on this topic, we will continue to publish them.


New Q & A


Ellen Zucker writes:
Although I've been a student of Astrology since the late 70's, I'm only now going out and setting up a practice.

One of the biggest roadblocks for me has been dealing with other people's negative opinions about Astrology. It is necessary to let people know what I do if I want to attract clients. But I feel exposed, vulnerable, and frankly don't enjoy handling the reactions of those who disparage or disapprove of Astrology.

How do you insulate yourselves about the negative opinion in which Astrology is held by the mainstream?


Dear Members,
Send your comments to Ellen Zucker at emzucker@netreach.net. Comments will be published next month.



It's your Q & A.
Let us direct our collective energies towards brainstorming about YOUR dilemma.
Send in the details. One question will be chosen and posted in next month's OPA E-NEWS.


To write to OPA E-NEWS, send to: emzucker@netreach.net. Articles, contributions are welcome. No attachments, please.


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